Call it an age thing or just a quirk of personality but there's few musical forms more solipsistic or based on pure introversion for me than dance music. I get the culture surrounding it is all about group activity but in terms of how I receive the sounds, whether through headphones, at home or during a live set, the feeling is completely about carving out a tiny, private headspace within that community. I don't feel like the experience is any more universal and elated when it's done than any good live music experience. I tend to feel more ecstatic, communal and happily in synch with the people around me during a good live noise show, but maybe some of that is due to the fact the sets end after 30 or so mins and you get to talk about it with people after.papp diin wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 2:56 pm Dance music is indeed about community and some sort of shared trance. I think everyone comes out of it with a universal, elated feeling.
I'd guess that not so many noise guys cop to the importance of it, probably because they're more directly influenced by the things that influenced the piece in the first place...but I do think Revolution #9 it is quite widely recognised for all the things you point out. I honestly do give a shit about the Beatles and always have, and that piece plus many, many other things they did are rightly attributed as huge moments in music history where the influence of some very serious avant garde art got into the ears and heads of so many people who'd otherwise be ignorant to it. I am sure that among the millions of people who heard these things, millions will have thought it was some indulgent nonsense (which it absolutely is) but I also believe another few million took it to heart and had their wigs flipped to some degree. The effect they had culturally for doing things like this cannot be understated, even if someone dislikes the band.papp diin wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 2:56 pm Also, Revolution #9 really does gets overlooked as far as it's proto-noise importance, I think. So many decades later it's kind of percieved as this "weird day at work" for The Beatles or Yoko nudging her way in the studio (by boomer misogynists obviously) but man, it really is fucking crazy. That thing was blasting on MILLIONS of home stereos around the world in the fucking 60's. Families of all walks of life probably thought the stereo was fucking possessed or something. When you look at it that way, it's not that weird that people attribute it to the Manson murders, because it was probably as big of a shock to the overall culture.
I honestly do not give a shit about the Beatles, I never have. But the fact that they did that honestly convinces me of their greatness.
