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Out now - Stuart McCune of CYESS AFXZS on WCN Podcsast:

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Out now ahead of schedule!

Soddy of TWO ASSISTANT DEPUTY MINISTERS on WCN Podcast!

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As an extra special bonus, Soddy sent me some DV tapes of spectacular live footage from his legendary Fuck My Ass concert series, featuring performances by Endo + T.A.D.M., Kosakai + Hasegawa, and The Tokyo Othodox Noise Choir, just to name a few. Digitized by WCN and available for the first time ever at https://www.patreon.com/whitecentipedenoise
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Recently posted this to the other forum, but thought it was soddyesque enough to be repo'd here.

I'd meant to post something more coherent (or at least, more properly convoluted!) on some of what Mr CYESS AFXZS had to say, before getting side-tracked by the subsequent subcoherent ramblings of a certain sorry sod (technically recorded over a month ago).

For me, the one moment that starts the conversation is this idea that noise needs to be destroyed before it can move forward (or be reborn shall we say), through perhaps something like un-noise. This immediately reminded me of a comment Hiroshige made in an old Bananafish interview, cautioning that this is a paraphrase of a translation by David Hopkins from an interview taking place over 25 years ago: that an almighty mass of disorganized sound is prerequisite to going beyond music and noise [italics theirs- translators? publishers?]. That comment has been bugging the hell out of me ever since. How does producing an almighty mass of disorganized sound go "beyond" noise? And relates back to an old joke I used to trot out on the subject, in reviews and discussion; that no matter what you may try to do with noise, the results are always the same: more noise. Which might perhaps take a would-be destroyer in death spirals around jliat territory, where noise in its purest conception is the limit [empahasis mine].

I was then reminded of Hiroshige's solo work, which is certainly much more structured, presented in a complete package with lyric book containing what I'd call almost classic verse  (not myself being anywhere near versed enough in Japanese poetry to offer any but the vaguest suggestions along these lines, but shall we say approaching something like spiritual-cum-existential Morita Doji esque lines, I digress). And clearly there was an impact there, at least among the Japanese contingent, when you'd have Monde Bruits covering one of the better cuts on the first of these albums. (There were only about three albums before he began to edge more into, albeit noise-y, rock 'n roll territory. My fave track still gets plenty play here, though this youtube clip grossly curtails all the nuance.)

I trot out Hiroshige and Hijokaidan here as symbols of the some of the earliest attempts at bringing noise to its most clinically devastating (do check out the above indicated tracks at appropriate levels, and call your audiologist in the morning). Could the Japanese contingent have been having the same conversation we are now, back in the late 70s?

Now this idea of necessary destruction in the service of moving things forward is I think nicely supported in the contention that a would be destroyer needs to know the history. That is, needs to know the contours of what it is they are actively seeking to destroy. One might otherwise be missing the mark by quite the margin without even realizing it. We all watch movies. We know what happens when they think they got the bad guy but the actual dying breath is not shown. Cue the piercing violins.

One thing that I think needs to be emphasized, and here I will refer back to an old Ligotti quote from an interview bearing the same title: it's all about personal pathology. It may be harder than we think to "bring the whole thing forward" through individual re-framings, creations, destructions, but possibly that is all we will ever have. Reframings creations destructions on a strictly personal level. (Let this not be interpreted necessarily as resistance to the idea of at least trying. All for that, here! But.) I was in conversation very recently with a person who I feel is absolutely pushing things "forward", and who is absolutely challenging ideas of what might constitute listenable (never mind good) sound and music. And through this came a resistance to the idea of potentially assigning a sense of perceptual "movement" to one element (or cluster of elements) in a very atomised world of individual persons working through their personal pathologies and passions. Some may wish to ride the wall, others may choose to be NO PART OF IT. What can perhaps be seen as a serious and debilitating issue can as easily be perceived of as a strength (leaving out the tinnitus!), where any sense of a frame or frame within which to work is always fraying and cracking as it comes into contact, for however long, with other supposed frames, such as how Soddy briefly etched in his WCN episode, on the semi-wave-like convergence/dis-convergence of more classically minded harshnoise purveyors with the more gleefully anti elements in playful pursuit of private personal pathologies and passions.

Perhaps the only thing to be wary of is falling into a syntactic trap, wherein perceptions of music-sound-art are waylaid by overtly didactic attempts to frame it in words (which is all we'll ever have. sorry!). Trying (and failing) to locate a similar discussion on this forum from some years back, I did find vaguely tangential comments stuck in the middle of a subreadable borbeto commentary
that truly great noise is beyond words, and would only be diminished by words of any coherent form in the same way the infinite is diminished by any attempt to re-present in terms comprehensible to the syntax of subject-verb agreement
So going back to Hijokaidan and Hiroshige, perhaps the only way to go beyond music and noise is to stop talking about it. To stop pretending that we are making any sense whatsoever. And that, I'm afraid, is an IT OF which I'd like to be NO PART.

Glad I could convolute that up.
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Out now - Jim Lerario of SLACKING on WCN Podcast:

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In the Patreon exclusive EXT., we carry on the conversation for another 40 minutes in a more spontaneous and way, opening up about a wide range of topics:

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OUT NOW ON WCN TV! Recent Release Reviews

On this episode, I release a stack of recent releases from DREW DANIEL +JOHN WIESE, WHITE GOLD, STEWART SKINNER, MAX JULIAN EASTMAN, ATTIC SHRINES, ZALHIETZLI, ARTHUR CANTERBURY, and HELMER

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I dig the discussion about forums. I remember how you have to basically learn a subculture on some forums, learn personalities, know the history of whats gone on. I feel like forums were peak when I was a little younger, and had more "free" time. I feel as if I get more out of reading forums now than I did before where I was just either taking the piss or trolling or whatever nonsense.
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Out now! Kenny Sanderson of FACIALMESS / LIKE WEEDS on WCN Podcast!

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Really liked the recent episode with Kenny Sanderson. Great to finally hear a proper UK accent on the podcast along with some proper swearing. Zero disrespect to Andy Bolus here but he's picked up that French twang. Also spot on with his comments about the UK, where they happen.

Very cool to just listen to Kenny be enthusiastic about all these great artists new and old. I've been aware of his name and music almost as long as I have noise itself and seeing how down to earth and still enamoured he is around all of it is great.

I reckon his comments, tongue in cheek or unsure as they were, about "do I really like Noise?" have a tonne more depth to them than was (or could have been) fully explored. It's a very intriguing thing to dig into enjoyment of noise and what that does/does not involve. I personally think it's a brilliant, much needed perspective that this can range massively even among veterans.
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Thanks man , glad you enjoyed. yeah not sure why 25 years over here hasn't softened my east midlands twang. Im sure being 4 beers deep added to it too,

About the "do I really like Noise?" thing, probably could have been clearer, maybe down to the beer too ha, I definitely do like noise, the subculture, the sounds, the aesthetic, but on deeper reflection, maybe the question I was asking myself was "have I ever really wanted to make noise ?" looking back at my appropriations of other genres. in facialmess and I don't consider Like Weeds a noise project either,
When I watched that interview with Sam The Rita, it did make me reflect on my own intentions.
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I get you. I don’t suppose there is a correct answer at all, the reflection is what’s interesting. For my money the appropriation of those genres has as much a place in and as noise as studious fascination with texture or tone. It’s also reasonable to highlight that they might be coming from a different place on behalf of the artist. I can’t speak for your overall intentions, of course, but my idea of ‘Noise’ has always been a containing vessel of loads of different sounds and ideas. I enjoy the limitations of the imperfect term ‘Noise’ to describe that eclecticism and think it’s as much of a subcultural signifier as a sonic one.

Also should have said earlier it was great to hear a quick mention of Romance! Now there’s a project that would have blown a lot of minds if it had gotten a ‘proper’ album out on CD or something.
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adult human wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 5:27 am Also should have said earlier it was great to hear a quick mention of Romance! Now there’s a project that would have blown a lot of minds if it had gotten a ‘proper’ album out on CD or something.
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Though on another level, the absolute refusal to get back into it is a bit of a righteous mindfuck right there. Don't want to say more power to him, but...
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I think Kenny asking if he likes noise is as real as it gets. The question of is noise music and is music noise has many levels and one person can see it as the major genres of music are music while other genres (soundtracks/ ambient/ sound ambient) are noise. We saw Kenny ask this question in 2023 but shit I'd bet good money he's had a similar conversation with himself when starting up Like Weeds. Great episode all around!
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Henry's getting-into-noise story was fascinating. Thanks Oskar for another great episode. His top 8/10 was funny he could've just kept going!
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searchofexit wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:56 pm I think Kenny asking if he likes noise is as real as it gets. The question of is noise music and is music noise has many levels and one person can see it as the major genres of music are music while other genres (soundtracks/ ambient/ sound ambient) are noise. We saw Kenny ask this question in 2023 but shit I'd bet good money he's had a similar conversation with himself when starting up Like Weeds. Great episode all around!
I suppose, taking a cosmic view, of noise as vibrating watchyermacallit that underlies all things, could the persons involved in (the pretense of) making more of it be said to be entirely happy with noise, that is, as it (apparently) is? Existential ingrates the lot I tells ya.
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The monthly WCN Video Party was this weekend, where supporters, former podcast guests, and WCN alumni meet up to talk about noise. If you missed it, you can watch the whole chat on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/whitecentipedenoise
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Out now! Jackson Abdul-Salaam of COMMUTER / HERUKRAT on WCN Podcast

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WCN wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 1:40 pm Out now! Jackson Abdul-Salaam of COMMUTER / HERUKRAT on WCN Podcast

https://youtu.be/d8h9ByPCLvY
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Full interview content, download codes for the new COMMUTER album on New Forces, and more:

https://www.patreon.com/whitecentipedenoise
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There’s a new podcast schedule now in effect! Each Monday at 18:00 CET:

1st week: Podcast - public
2nd week: WCN TV - Patreon exclusive
3rd week: Podcast - public
4th week: Video Workshop/Party - Patreon exclusive (The workshop will be held on the weekend, and the recording will air on Patreon the following Monday)

I’ve also improved and updated the Patreon, refining the benefits and focus of each tier: https://www.patreon.com/whitecentipedenoise

This Monday is an episode of AFTERBLAST - a follow up discussion wit my first ever podcast guest, Ilkka Vekka of HAARE / SAVAGE GOSPEL. This is WCN TV content, available through Patreon.
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Out now on WCN TV - AFTERBLAST with Ilkka Vekka of HAARE / SAVAGE GOSPEL

Ilkka was my first ever guest on the podcast, so it was a great joy to follow up with him nearly 2 years later. We start by talking about what he's been up to lately musically (which is lots!), which leads us into a variety of topics such as genre perception, modern music, scene politics, and fatherhood.

You can watch or listen to the full 1 hour 45 minute episode at https://www.patreon.com/whitecentipedenoise

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Out now! Johnathan Cash of SUNK COST / BREAKDANCING RONALD REAGAN on WCN Podcast!

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Taking a couple weeks off the podcast to focus on family. Now is a great time to join the Patreon - you can catch up on all of the Patreon exclusive episodes and provide needed support to WCN: https://www.patreon.com/whitecentipedenoise
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WCN Podcast is back!

Out now: Episode 55 with James Light of WOUNDED SON / AGONAL LUST / FINDERS https://youtu.be/_7yGTlQqOZM

James Light makes industrial music under numerous monikers such as WOUNDED SON, MEATPACKER, and DRILLER. Aside from his solo work, he is member of the infamous duo AGONAL LUST, known for their suffocatingly morbid recordings and intensely violent performances. Here, James opens up about his life, touching on his traumatic upbringing, his struggles with mental health, and how all of these things funnel into the totality of his art. We also talk about his former label Finders, and his current imprint Packing Plant in this new episode of White Centipede Noise Podcast.

In the Patreon exclusive EXT. video, James talks about his personal relationship with the late great Keith Brewer of TAINT and MANIA, and shows me his top 5 industrial and power electronics releases of all time from his collection. James was also gracious enough to donate an exclusive digital EP from Agonal Lust side project CONTRAVENTION to the Maniac’s Circle, which is now available there for download.

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