Re: Collages/Visual Art
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:20 am
Combining the different pictures of the same elements hits my brain right. I want to do an all ocean piece and all jungle next.
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So far all the collages I made where from xerox'ed source material (books, magazines, etc). I don't like the idea of cutting up books, so I make photocopies of the pictures I like. This way I can start reworking them by adjusting the size at which they're copied, brightness, contrast etc. Sometimes I move the book over the copier screen while it runs to get that classic warbly effect. Or I put semi-transparent tracing paper over the source material to get a kind of foggy effect, or I crumple a picture then copy it again...raato wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:37 pm so that this won't become a mostly dead self-promo topic, and because of curiosity and potential inspiration as well, i'd love to hear about fellow collagemakers' workflow, techniques, and general thought process of creating, whatever you feel like sharing :)
perhaps an interesting starting point could be subject matter, are there some recurring themes in your work? how/where do you source your image material, do you use any other forms of manipulation besides ye olde cut'n'paste?
two thoughts from someone who's day job is working with multiple copy shops:Zalhietzli wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:41 am I also do "collages" straight in the copier, by putting the same piece of paper several times through the copier, with different part of a collage each time. Kind of like screen printing (some digital copiers allow to print in one solid color, CMYB style). But apparently, this can damage the copier so I shift to stealth mode when I do it at the copier shop.
Interesting. I was thinking of buying my own printer at some point but never did it out of fear of damaging it with that technique. Do you think there is a risk ?housepig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:49 amtwo thoughts from someone who's day job is working with multiple copy shops:Zalhietzli wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:41 am I also do "collages" straight in the copier, by putting the same piece of paper several times through the copier, with different part of a collage each time. Kind of like screen printing (some digital copiers allow to print in one solid color, CMYB style). But apparently, this can damage the copier so I shift to stealth mode when I do it at the copier shop.
- the amount of prints you're running through more than once is probably minimal compared to the overall usage on the machine; any damage you're going to do is minuscule.
- anything in a copy shop that's open to the public to operate, the shop expects to be ridden hard and put away wet, so any damage you do is already factored in to their lifespan plan for the device, and the price you're paying per click.
with those things in mind.... go nuts!
probably small, but might be magnified on a home printer/copier since it's not built for the same level of use (and abuse) as a commercial copy machine. let me pick the brains of a couple of our techs and I'll see what they say.Zalhietzli wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:13 pm Interesting. I was thinking of buying my own printer at some point but never did it out of fear of damaging it with that technique. Do you think there is a risk ?
Thanks. By the way, when I said buying a copier I meant a big commercial one with toner. Inkjet prints just doesn't look as good to me.housepig wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:19 pmprobably small, but might be magnified on a home printer/copier since it's not built for the same level of use (and abuse) as a commercial copy machine. let me pick the brains of a couple of our techs and I'll see what they say.Zalhietzli wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:13 pm Interesting. I was thinking of buying my own printer at some point but never did it out of fear of damaging it with that technique. Do you think there is a risk ?
I don't know man, I happily spend my time looking at the collage work for hours! Love the work that is shared here :) Will post something from myself soon however I really should finish some other things first, maybe, sometime...anyway for me (and I think most of us here) collage art really is like a visual form of noise...no rules everything is permitted, creating crazy chaos by cutting up existing photos, art and articles and re-arranging meaning by placing new text to images. It's almost a form of meditation.raato wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:37 pmso that this won't become a mostly dead self-promo topic, and because of curiosity and potential inspiration as well, i'd love to hear about fellow collagemakers' workflow, techniques, and general thought process of creating, whatever you feel like sharing :)Cruelsymphonies wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 12:58 pmI love these especially the religious ones. Super high detail. I'll give ya a follow.
Thank you friendholy ghost wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 10:19 am @alonewithlabor : big fan of your IG!!
@helvitis : those are beautiful!!
Great work everyone!!
Very late reply but for future reference maybe try getting some mod podge or something else to act as a sealant over the top. Should help keep everything in place at least for awhile. The glue from glue sticks is unfortunately very responsive to temperature and humidity changes.SS1535 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:32 pm Can anyone recommend good ways to preserve collages? I have a piece that was recently completed that I will be mailing to someone, so I would like to ensure that is is not damaged in transit. I know that if I brace it with cardboard/a nice shipper, then hopefully bends will not be a big issue. My main concern is ensuring that the collage itself does not come apart in the mail or after it has reached its final home. The images are sourced from a newspaper, and they are mounted on a semi-sturdy piece of drawing paper with a standard gluestick. I have noticed on some of my other collages that the glue loses effectiveness after a while. I was thinking about layering diluted white glue over the entire surface of the collage. Any advice or thoughts?
Thank you very much for this. Thankfully, in the intervening time, I have gotten an equivalent to mod podge that should do the trick! I have been slowly but surely realizing the costs of glue sticks, so I am hoping to stop using them in the future---despite their convenience.htp_systems wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:29 amVery late reply but for future reference maybe try getting some mod podge or something else to act as a sealant over the top. Should help keep everything in place at least for awhile. The glue from glue sticks is unfortunately very responsive to temperature and humidity changes.SS1535 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:32 pm Can anyone recommend good ways to preserve collages? I have a piece that was recently completed that I will be mailing to someone, so I would like to ensure that is is not damaged in transit. I know that if I brace it with cardboard/a nice shipper, then hopefully bends will not be a big issue. My main concern is ensuring that the collage itself does not come apart in the mail or after it has reached its final home. The images are sourced from a newspaper, and they are mounted on a semi-sturdy piece of drawing paper with a standard gluestick. I have noticed on some of my other collages that the glue loses effectiveness after a while. I was thinking about layering diluted white glue over the entire surface of the collage. Any advice or thoughts?