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His discography is quite vast (but not as much so as Macronympha's) and I've been trying to figure out which albums I should get. I already have these...

Richard Ramirez
- Deconstructed Hand Device
& David Gilden - Collaborations 1 and 2

Black Leather Jesus
- Juliet of the Spirits
- Aural Aversion Therapy
- split with Macronympha
& Nihilist Assault Group - Cinema Calendar

Slave Labor
/Depress-Regress - Seeing Trip'le
- A Sicker Cow
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xIncorruptibleCorpse777x wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 12:51 pm (but not as much so as Macronympha's)
I think his discography is much vaster than Macro’s, given the dozens of projects he has.

He gives Merzbow a run for his money and might even eclipse him in terms of sheer number of releases.
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I didn't know he had that many projects. Damn.
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He just put up this David Gilden reissue, btw...

https://richardramirez.bandcamp.com/alb ... ress-vol-2
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Gonna keep my eyes on here. Been interested but no idea where to start
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Start with some easily obtained reissued classic era solids.

BLACK LEATHER JESUS
Torture Machinist - CD reissue on Industrial Recollections
Torturous Chapter - CD reissue on Old Europa Café
A.n.t.i. - CD reissue on Ominous

RICHARD RAMIREZ
The Volume 1 five CD box set on New Forces

No clue where to start with WJ,but I'm pretty sure there are some experts on the board.
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Capers wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 8:59 am Start with some easily obtained reissued classic era solids.

BLACK LEATHER JESUS
Torture Machinist - CD reissue on Industrial Recollections
Torturous Chapter - CD reissue on Old Europa Café
A.n.t.i. - CD reissue on Ominous

RICHARD RAMIREZ
The Volume 1 five CD box set on New Forces

No clue where to start with WJ,but I'm pretty sure there are some experts on the board.
Thanks!
Been scoping these out at bandcamp. I still feel bit overwhelmed with releases that are 1 hour track, 2 30min tracks or 5-7 20min tracks. But I'm learning and getting there slowly. Search for shorter stuff and grow with the longer releases.
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Capers wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 8:59 am
RICHARD RAMIREZ
The Volume 1 five CD box set on New Forces

No clue where to start with WJ,but I'm pretty sure there are some experts on the board.
For Werewolf Jerusalem my go-to is The Flies of our Tragic Dear CD on Breathing Problem.

That boxset is on par with any of the other classic 1990's "Americanoise" acts (Skin Crime, Macro...). Volume 2 coming later this year hopefully.
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Thank you both for the recommendations!!!
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I mentioned this in another thread, but there's a BLJ tape called Hellbound that came out on Deathbed last year that I think is tremendously good.
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Some personal favorites of lesser known Ramirez projects / releases I'd recommend:
Adult Crash Unit - Head On Opposition (2019)
Hooked Talons - Wendigo (2014)
Mental Wreckage - Opposite Side Of The Road (2018 reissue)
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Crash at Every Speed is some of the best high end abuse around, love that project. Painful stuff.

Agree on tragic flies for WJ. I tend to like most everything that project did tho

So many great BLJ's that never get enough love:
Machofucker
Split with Homopolice
Prove to me that you're more than meat
A purpose not necessary
Split with MSBR (LP)
Collabs with smell & quim, and smegma
Etc
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What Crash at Every Speed releases would you say are the best?
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Richard has one of the most vast and complex discographies of any noise artist. He is often pigeon-holed for his harsh noise wall releases but has an incredibly diverse and dynamic pedigree of projects.

Is it hard to weed through it all? YES! Are there also quality control issues with releases? ALSO YES! However, he has created a massive amount of amazing material strewn throughout the immense catalog and I think it's worth the time and effort to sift through it all. I'm about to add WAY too much but I love Richard and all of his projects and find all of these to be very worthwhile releases.

Richard Ramirez Classics:
Gashes - so so good, one of my favorites
Cultural Blockade - another personal favorite, a lot of junk metal on this one
BLJ/Richard Ramirez - S/T 1994 split - Might actually be my favorite single RR track
Amplified Tactics
Memorial
Anwar
Trace & Research
Anger Built Machine
I Keep My Stuff Inside
Deconstructed Hand Device
Burned Into The World's Memory
Backlash (A Guide To The Porn Agenda)
MSBR / Richard Ramirez ‎– Sonic Aggression
*'94 to '97 was a particularly focused and fruitful period.
**The Recent New Forces box collects some other great tapes not mentioned here.

Black Leather Jesus Classics:
Liar By Wound
Gods of Ceremony
False Machinery Loaded
Sex in the Name of God
Gauze
Crossburnt
Ho/mo/Sexual
Bacteria Culture
Torture Machinist
Werewolf Jerusalem
Event

Other Projects:
Adipocere - Concrete Verge
Anal Drill - Strong Will(ing) of Hate
Fetus Furs ‎– Dogshit
Metal Dildo - Self Titled
Meat Shop Rapist - No Way Out
Meat Shop Rapist - Dragging Meat Rape
Powdered Beatles - What Am I?
Slave Labor - Vol. 3
Slave Labor - Untitled
Slave Labor - A Sick Cow

Newer Stuff:
Richard and BLJ continue to put out top-quality material and there are some EXCELLENT recent releases.
Richard Ramirez - PPP
Richard Ramirez - Latex Catalog
Black Leather Jesus - Tell It To The Marines
Black Leather Jesus - Hits
Black Leather Jesus - Raw
Black Leather Jesus - Mary/Vicky
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Capers wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 8:59 am No clue where to start with WJ,but I'm pretty sure there are some experts on the board.
Werewolf Jerusalem's "Untitled IV" is my go-to. Far and away it is the best Werewolf Jerusalem release, in my opinion. It is just so creepy and atmospheric in a way that not many other noise releases capture. "God Has Shot Himself" and "Damned" are also worth checking out.
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k.p.g wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:39 am
Capers wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 8:59 am No clue where to start with WJ,but I'm pretty sure there are some experts on the board.
Werewolf Jerusalem's "Untitled IV" is my go-to. Far and away it is the best Werewolf Jerusalem release, in my opinion. It is just so creepy and atmospheric in a way that not many other noise releases capture. "God Has Shot Himself" and "Damned" are also worth checking out.
Thank you, I just added that to my want list on bandcamp.
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Anal Drill - "Stimulating the Masochist" is my absolute favorite.

Still a couple copies of the reissue cassette available https://richardramirez.bandcamp.com/alb ... -masochist

Always on the hunt for the original, though. :/
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For Richard, I enjoy the more emotional, dynamic, and mutant sections of his output. I'm not an expert, I definitely haven't soaked up material from all of his myriad projects, nor have I dove into a majority of material from any single alias/collaboration, but I've definitely combed through a ton of his work and have had dozens and dozens of releases he's been a part of slide in and out of my possession. Here are a handful of things that I'll be taking to the grave.

For Richard Ramirez stuff, I absolutely love 'Memorial' and 'I Keep My Stuff Inside'.

I'm a big fan of Black Leather Jesus' 'Hell'. Definitely one of the more demented BLJ recordings.

I also have a huge soft spot for his incredibly minimal—almost ambient—crumbles as Kourei. The 6xCDr set is worth grabbing and I really enjoyed the release he did on Buried In Slag And Debris.

Finally—most of the Slave Labor material fucking rips, but I'm sure I'm not really adding anything to the conversation by saying that.

With all of that said, I'm definitely a bit exhausted by the amount of both reissues and new releases he puts out, but I can also understand the hustle of trying to sustain one's self as an artist. So—if it's working for him, that's great, but the oceanic surplus of releases takes up a lot of real estate.
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I think my go to are the Threesome Slitting LP & 7” just because they’re the perfect representation of three artists I love. You can add the “US Tour” tape on Foul Prey as well. I don’t have a huge cross section of RR/BLJ/WJ/etc releases, probably 30 or 40 in total bit I always enjoy them and try to pick them up when I can but I’m not as obsessive as I am with The Rita.

The Amplified Tactics DLP is another great one, just a perfect presentation and great sets.

If I had to pick one project that was a favourite I think it would be Black Leather Jesus just for the sheer over the top outrageousness of it.
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I tend to prefer stuff he does under his own name. BLJ is hit or miss for me. Echoing that Slave Labor rules.
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A few really good re-issues of early Deadline releases in the latest batch:

Controlled Filter - Sniper: https://richardramirez.bandcamp.com/album/sn-per
Helmut Yard - The Platform Shift: https://richardramirez.bandcamp.com/alb ... form-shift

I'm also very fond of the newer Cruel Map of Women's Bodies. I guess it's a "BLJ Side Project", so a lot of the same core members but just slightly different?
1: https://richardramirez.bandcamp.com/alb ... s-bodies-i
2: https://richardramirez.bandcamp.com/alb ... -bodies-ii
3: https://richardramirez.bandcamp.com/album/3-2
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in tribute to the late kevin ogg who was an early and influential member of black leather jesus, memorial stands as one of ‘the ones’ that put mr. ramirez on the map with his more structured and longford atmospheric industrial noise compositions. featured in part on berghain 09 mix if you’re looking for a place to start in the vast catalog of richard ramirez - this is your answer!


Checking this one out on Bandcamp - sounds really great! Definitely hoping I can find a copy of this one.
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holy ghost wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:09 amDefinitely hoping I can find a copy of this one.
I'll look into securing copies for the great white north.
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Scream & Writhe wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:42 am
holy ghost wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:09 amDefinitely hoping I can find a copy of this one.
I'll look into securing copies for the great white north.
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