Project Feedback Thread

[thatonekidatshows]

Working on some new tracks or sounds? Post them here!

I think this goes without saying, but please don't treat this solely as a way to promote your music.

I think it's worth making some suggestions to keep the thread productive and navigable:
- While I don't think it should be required, please offer some feedback if you're looking to receive some.
- Post the type of noise you're making so that people don't end up listening to and offering biased feedback to a genre that they don't like.
- That being said, keep an open mind!
- Posting your setup along with the audio could allow others to give better feedback, but don't feel like you have to divulge your noise secrets.
- This is a feedback thread, so expect the possibility of criticism if you post. That's how we improve! Of course, keep criticism both friendly and constructive.

I'll start and offer feedback as soon as y'all post. I hope people find this to be helpful. Have fun!

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Song: https://voca.ro/1kuHU47vyLXk

Genre: Power electronics, slightly harsh noise
Think (Kinda sounds like...): Whitehouse, Prurient
Setup: Homemade contact microphone --> Homemade fuzz face-type circuit --> Homemade MXR M134 clone --> Mixer (which is also doing some no-input mixing) --> Guitar amplifier --> Microphones --> Interface

[Zalhietzli]

Excellent thread idea ! I will listen to your stuff later.

[val]

Noisecore/Noisegrind project I started in december. Queercore and furry themes. Give a listen if that suits ya fancy!

https://foxinthestable.bandcamp.com/album/puro-21-trax

not sure if this is the right spot to discuss this, but i've been trying to find a drummer friend interested in playing this sorta stuff in the band but have had no luck. Any interested parties or advice on finding people just email me Horrorbae@gmail.com

Thankies!

[thatonekidatshows]

Noisecore/Noisegrind project I started in december. Queercore and furry themes. Give a listen if that suits ya fancy!

https://foxinthestable.bandcamp.com/album/puro-21-trax

Ha ha, that's not really my cup of tea, but I enjoyed it nonetheless. Hide It with Gloss was pretty good, but I definitely think you would benefit from having a drummer. Generally, I think the production could be a lot gnarlier, too, but I think you're on the right track. I hope you are able to find a drummer soon. :)

[thatonekidatshows]

New track I recorded yesterday: https://voca.ro/13AsMm4WZasM

Genre: Uh.. harsh noise...? It's not really that harsh, though.
Think: Systematic Elimination's "Advanced Formations"
Setup: Mixer and an SM57 (mainly)

It's called Machine Gun 'cause I thought it sounded like a machine gun.

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I initially recorded it directly from the mixer, but I found out that it sounded nothing like what I was hearing from in front of the speaker. I re-recorded it with an Audix D6, but I kinda regret using that microphone 'cause it was too bass-y. I'll probably just record it again using a large diaphragm condenser. I want to try to make it sound a little less distinctly no-input mixer, though, so I'm also working on that.

[godnoisegod]

Sup y'all? My name is Erik and I have a HNW project called godnoisegod. I just released my first EP/album yesterday on bandcamp. About 2 hours of HNW. I would love any feedback/criticism you guys have. If you like what you hear, maybe drop a follow? I have a few more splits being released this week. Much love everyone. Stay noisey!

https://godnoisegodhnw.bandcamp.com/album/obelisk

[Residual / RT]

Sup y'all? My name is Erik and I have a HNW project called godnoisegod. I just released my first EP/album yesterday on bandcamp. About 2 hours of HNW. I would love any feedback/criticism you guys have. If you like what you hear, maybe drop a follow? I have a few more splits being released this week. Much love everyone. Stay noisey!

https://godnoisegodhnw.bandcamp.com/album/obelisk

To me this is boring, rudimental harsh noise. Long tracks with nothing interesting happening, neither sonically nor structurally. Perfect example of material that should not have been published in my opinion. Sorry to be so negative, but great noise isn't exactly easy to make. You should maybe keep on making new stuff without publishing, and maybe embrace less is more princible. 30 minutes of the same, uninteresting rudimentary feedback rumbling is quite boring. Those 4 long tracks, if heavily edited could maybe have had enough material for a single 10-minute track, but even then I'd want some more variation, life in the sounds.

[godnoisegod]

Sup y'all? My name is Erik and I have a HNW project called godnoisegod. I just released my first EP/album yesterday on bandcamp. About 2 hours of HNW. I would love any feedback/criticism you guys have. If you like what you hear, maybe drop a follow? I have a few more splits being released this week. Much love everyone. Stay noisey!

https://godnoisegodhnw.bandcamp.com/album/obelisk

To me this is boring, rudimental harsh noise. Long tracks with nothing interesting happening, neither sonically nor structurally. Perfect example of material that should not have been published in my opinion. Sorry to be so negative, but great noise isn't exactly easy to make. You should maybe keep on making new stuff without publishing, and maybe embrace less is more princible. 30 minutes of the same, uninteresting rudimentary feedback rumbling is quite boring. Those 4 long tracks, if heavily edited could maybe have had enough material for a single 10-minute track, but even then I'd want some more variation, life in the sounds.

Lol I said feedback/criticism. Not gatekeeping. It's all good if you don't think my content is "great noise", but why be so rude? "This shouldn't have been published. Make more and don't publish." Everything before the word "but" is bullshit. So stating "Sorry, not trying to be rude.... BUT," basically means I am trying to be rude. But, I digress. Thank you for your backhanded feedback. I will reflect on what you said and make an attempt to make "great noise".

[godnoisegod]

Song: https://voca.ro/1kuHU47vyLXk

Genre: Power electronics, slightly harsh noise
Think (Kinda sounds like...): Whitehouse, Prurient
Setup: Homemade contact microphone --> Homemade fuzz face-type circuit --> Homemade MXR M134 clone --> Mixer (which is also doing some no-input mixing) --> Guitar amplifier --> Microphones --> Interface

This was awesome. The high pitched sonic squeals mixed well with the low end. I dig it!

[Residual / RT]

Sup y'all? My name is Erik and I have a HNW project called godnoisegod. I just released my first EP/album yesterday on bandcamp. About 2 hours of HNW. I would love any feedback/criticism you guys have. If you like what you hear, maybe drop a follow? I have a few more splits being released this week. Much love everyone. Stay noisey!

https://godnoisegodhnw.bandcamp.com/album/obelisk

To me this is boring, rudimental harsh noise. Long tracks with nothing interesting happening, neither sonically nor structurally. Perfect example of material that should not have been published in my opinion. Sorry to be so negative, but great noise isn't exactly easy to make. You should maybe keep on making new stuff without publishing, and maybe embrace less is more princible. 30 minutes of the same, uninteresting rudimentary feedback rumbling is quite boring. Those 4 long tracks, if heavily edited could maybe have had enough material for a single 10-minute track, but even then I'd want some more variation, life in the sounds.

Lol I said feedback/criticism. Not gatekeeping. It's all good if you don't think my content is "great noise", but why be so rude? "This shouldn't have been published. Make more and don't publish." Everything before the word "but" is bullshit. So stating "Sorry, not trying to be rude.... BUT," basically means I am trying to be rude. But, I digress. Thank you for your backhanded feedback. I will reflect on what you said and make an attempt to make "great noise".

I was blunt yes, but did not mean to be rude. Also don't understand your claim of gatekeeping at all here, it was just my honest opinion. There's just so much "HNW" getting uploaded straight to bandcamp now and most of it is like yours: rudimentary and not very interesting. If I were you, for your next release I would try and get it published as a tape, following White Centipede Noises advice. That's usually a good indication whether your stuff is any good: is someone willing to put money and effort behind releasing and promoting it?

When it come to releasing/sharing your recordings, give yourself time. Don’t upload every track you make to bandcamp right away. When you have a recording you are truly happy with, release it yourself. Make 50 tapes/CDrs and send them in the mail to artists and labels you truly admire and respect. Write them an honest individual message, do not copy paste that you are looking for a label to release your work. Most will be keen on trading, but even if they aren’t, ask for their address and send it to them. This route requires investing a bit of money, but that act alone will show dedication and seriousness about what you’re doing and set yourself apart from a massive sea noise that no one is listening to. This may sound elitist, but once you have made some contacts, stay choosey about who you work with. Don’t accept every offer for a split or label release if you don’t feel they are up to your personal standards of artistic quality. There are a lot of labels out there who practice no quality control, so don’t be afraid to be exclusive. Right or wrong, listeners/labels will be more interested in taking the time to listen to your work if they see you have been thoughtful about who you work with and what you release, than if you have spattered a huge volume of your work across the internet with anyone who would take it.

Also, for you specifically:

As for submissions, you definitely want to put your best foot forward, but I think it’s also OK in some cases to share something that isn’t 100% finished. Asking for feedback can also be helpful if you value the person’s opinion, and some people will be willing to give it. Take it with a grain is salt of course, because it’s ultimately your work and you shouldn’t be tailoring it to someone else’s taste, but honest feedback can give you a new perspective on something that you’re very close to. Also, learn to accept honest criticism without taking it personally.

[godnoisegod]

I didn't take it personally. Most people don't enjoy HNW. You seem to be making a bunch of general rationalizations about what I am doing with my work. I don't expect anyone to wnt to pay for what I make. For now, I just want to put out what I like to hear. I have plenty of unpublished work that's being worked on for labels, tapes, etc. All in due time. I released my first release myself because of how much work I put into it. Again, you don't have to like it, but I dont believe telling someone how boring and not "great" it is isn't a good approach for criticism.

Regardless, there is truth to some of what you say. Instead of assuming I'm rushing releases and not putting my best foot forward, maybe chit chat for a bit and see what's what. Let's get to know each other before you tell me how much my shit sucks lol.

Anyways, much love dude. Stay noisey.

[Residual / RT]

Yo same to you, apologies if I was being too negative. I should have chosen my words more carefully, but sometimes on the internet you come off more dickish than you meant to.

[godnoisegod]

Yo same to you, apologies if I was being too negative. I should have chosen my words more carefully, but sometimes on the internet you come off more dickish than you meant to.

All good my dude. It's hard to get across emotions when it's just text.

[Vast Field Magnetism]

Try harder, worry less, use analog gear (tactility/tangibility are your friend), avoid being another HNW Bandcamp project.

[Remi]

New track I recorded yesterday

If I may, that's a beginner mistake.

Hardly anyone, especially newcomers, get the right recording in one take, or even in a few hours, and can say the next day that it's good. Nowadays, with so many talented artists who put out amazingly produced or thought-out recordings, it can't happen.

If I read this in a description, it's sad to say but I won't even give it a chance. BUT if you tell me you spent a week editing the track and trying out different ideas on it, yeah, then maybe I will take some time to listen to it, and will eventually get back to you about it.

But you want to spend time with your recordings. Record stuff, be excited about it, leave it on your tape or your hard drive for a month, open it or play it again 3 weeks later and see what it needs or whether it still holds up to your expectations. Tweak it some more, let it rest again, check it out 2 weeks later. And then start thinking whether it is worth offering to the rest of the world or whether the world has already heard it all.

[thatonekidatshows]

If I may, that's a beginner mistake.

No worries, man! I appreciate the advice, though I already approach making music in this way. I will only release something if I'm sure that it is the absolute best it could be (which my tracks are nowhere near, ha ha.) While I called it a "track," I by no means meant to imply that I thought it was finished. I have yet to record a track that I consider finished. So far, I've just recorded a small number of demos and sound concepts that I would like to utilize. I'm basically trying to assemble a "pallet" from which I will draw to create something that I would actually spend a great deal of time polishing and practice my performance and recording techniques. Anything that I have posted here so far is really just to get feedback on the sounds themselves, really--not the track. For example, I think a lot of the sounds on "Machine Gun" sound pretty limp, so I could use some advice on how to give them more "oomph."

Of course, time is precious, so I appreciate anyone even willing to listen to a minute or two of my recordings to offer some feedback, but I totally understand if that's not people's priority. :)

Thanks for the response and taking the time to read the description!

[Remi]

Right, you're welcome.

But then, as mentioned above, don't worry about your sounds. What matters is that you like them, whatever they are, and that you build something with them that's YOURS. Once you're satisfied with that, maybe start thinking about what other people may think. But make music you'd like to listen to. If you enjoy listening to it, chances are that someone else may as well.

[raato]

https://raatonoise.bandcamp.com/track/0701221647

12 minutes of harsh noise, not HNW though. i've treated this track mainly as an experiment on analogue recording, and i know i still have a lot to learn about that. for example i think the L-R-panning could be done a lot better and some sort of proper arrangment could do a lot. i think i might have fallen for the "more-is-more" trap somewhere along the way, i don't think i really needed to use all 4 recorded tracks as layers. if anyone hears anything else to improve, or maybe has some tips on what to do with the flaws i've pointed out myself, i'd love to read any feedback you ppl have.

setup: fostex x-28, mixer, cheap vocal mic, a worn out tape loop, steel box with detachable lid and some stuff i hit the box with...

[D345]

https://raatonoise.bandcamp.com/track/0701221647

12 minutes of harsh noise, not HNW though. i've treated this track mainly as an experiment on analogue recording, and i know i still have a lot to learn about that. for example i think the L-R-panning could be done a lot better and some sort of proper arrangment could do a lot. i think i might have fallen for the "more-is-more" trap somewhere along the way, i don't think i really needed to use all 4 recorded tracks as layers. if anyone hears anything else to improve, or maybe has some tips on what to do with the flaws i've pointed out myself, i'd love to read any feedback you ppl have.

setup: fostex x-28, mixer, cheap vocal mic, a worn out tape loop, steel box with detachable lid and some stuff i hit the box with...

I like this a lot! Could only be somehow "harsher" or maybe more lower frequencies, but I don't know. Otherwise, for me this sounds ready more than just an experiment with gear.

[thatonekidatshows]

https://raatonoise.bandcamp.com/track/0701221647

Ya, I dig this. I was pretty much going to write the exact same things as D345. I too think it could be "harsher," but I'm not really sure how to explain what I mean. I think it could use some sort of face-peeling sound, y'know? Sorry if that's unclear. I have no idea how to explain it beyond that! XD

You are talking about the "more-is-more" trap, but I don't think that's really a "trap" in noise music. I mean, Merzbow has his reputation because he's a master of intricately layering many different sounds. I don't think you should be worried about overdoing it with layers. If you like a sound, throw it in. Whatever you did with that track, it sounded good. I also think that it could be a little more dynamic, but that might just be the sort of thing that I like.

As for panning, I have no idea how that should be done. I'd love to read how more seasoned noise artists on here approach panning (and mixing noise in general, really.) With more "conventional" mixing, one is often trying to recreate a space. With noise music, there isn't usually a "space..." I typically just divide the sounds between the two channels 75%/25%, but I'm sure there's a more artistic way of doing it. I want my mixes to sound full, but I also don't want it to sound really unnatural. Of course, mono just sounds like a brick wall (which can be cool in some cases, but I use it sparingly.)

Anyway, I think you're on the right track. I will definitely listen to more when/if you release it. :)

[heavyelectronix]

https://raatonoise.bandcamp.com/track/0701221647

12 minutes of harsh noise, not HNW though. i've treated this track mainly as an experiment on analogue recording, and i know i still have a lot to learn about that. for example i think the L-R-panning could be done a lot better and some sort of proper arrangment could do a lot. i think i might have fallen for the "more-is-more" trap somewhere along the way, i don't think i really needed to use all 4 recorded tracks as layers. if anyone hears anything else to improve, or maybe has some tips on what to do with the flaws i've pointed out myself, i'd love to read any feedback you ppl have.

setup: fostex x-28, mixer, cheap vocal mic, a worn out tape loop, steel box with detachable lid and some stuff i hit the box with...

This is solid, actually. It's muddy and lo-fi in such a way that maybe some of the crunch and scrape gets lost but not so blown out as to lose all the texture. I liked it.

I think you could achieve a harsher, crunchier sound simply by running this into an eq (plus maybe distortion) and onto another tape or into your computer. If you feel like you're overdoing it with the layering, simplify your process. I try to build tracks by carefully building each signal chain one effect at a time; at the first sign of unwanted muddiness I start pulling shit back out and that usually fixes the problem.

My criticism would be this is a very standard, run of the mill kind of sound palette with no real dynamics and not enough crunch or brutality to really compensate for that. Very much in the "oh, another noise tape" category.

[raato]

thanks for the comments y'all. i'm kinda in the middle of developing my sound further so all feedback is appreciated. good to know i'm clearly not as clueless in making noise as i think i am!

[Touch Starved]

https://raatonoise.bandcamp.com/track/0701221647
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I loved this one. I’m a sucker for tape-based noise and this one really scratched that itch! Def could be a lot more tape-saturated, in my opinion ;)

[Namahs]

https://raatonoise.bandcamp.com/track/0701221647
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I loved this one. I’m a sucker for tape-based noise and this one really scratched that itch! Def could be a lot more tape-saturated, in my opinion ;)

Digging that track also

[W.K.]

edit: what do I know.