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[SS1535]

Lately I've been seeing alot of videos where drummers run their set through pedal boards and Im loving the idea.
As soon as we get out rehearsal room runninf again, I'll start researching. Dunno if gonna it more with noise stuff or going to add it into our stoner doom bands sonic mayhem.

I have done this on a limited capacity in a rehearsal studio, and it worked great. One additional thing that I learned, though, was that it you point a large enough speaker at the drum set, contact mic'ing various parts (and running that through pedals) can produce some awesome feedback drones.

I tried contact micing my drums one time and running it through an amp. It was straight up nightmareish haha!

That means things are working! The only thing missing when I did it was some heavy reverb...

[James Thompson]

i just downloaded VCV Rack for the first time this evening and i'm already having a blast with it... this isn't a full track or anything, just what i cooked up this evening. still lots more to do to this rack to get it even nastier! i'm having fun!

[mouthofinfinity]

Recently finished dubbing 19 C30s for my first release under the name Pacing Animal. They should be fully assembled by the end of the weekend.
http://pacinganimal.bandcamp.com

[James Thompson]

messed around with the setup on a livestream this evening...



trying to combine my practical gear with the DAW build in Reason. think i get some interesting results. i'd like to play live at some point soon, so i need to decide if i want to go strictly for the physical stuff or if i want to invest in a cheap laptop i can use to augment it; if i did the latter, it'd give me a bit more control over how to mix them together, which could be handy. there are a few points in this where the signals are sort of fighting each other, which i like to some extent, but it loses a bit of its clarity.

i try and do some little spoken word interludes later on but it's very garbled, i'm just playing around really to see what comes out. also at around 27.30 i knocked the camera over and started fucking around with it, which is fun.

honestly i'm really enjoying self-feedbacking the fort processor (h/t @cementimental) as an fx send on the contact mic to really muddy up the noises and interject little oscillation patterns amongst the chaos.

[SS1535]

Here is something I did a while ago. It was supposed to be released on a comp CD, but that project seems to have been dropped by the guy organizing it. I would very much appreciate any thoughts.

[xIncorruptibleCorpse777x]

This is my first attempt at wall... what do y'all think?

[HHP]

Here is something I did a while ago. It was supposed to be released on a comp CD, but that project seems to have been dropped by the guy organizing it. I would very much appreciate any thoughts.

ended up reposting this because I liked it so much. First time putting words to why I enjoy specific noise so it might not be super clear, but I really enjoy the contrast between squeaky layer that feels like a chair being moved around and the clean melodic background layer. honestly the squeaks feel like a songbird for lack of a better word funny enough. Maybe I'm just an impatient listener but I would've had the intensity of the bit around 5:42 to be reached sooner and sustained for a bit longer too. overall this was super cool

[SS1535]

Here is something I did a while ago. It was supposed to be released on a comp CD, but that project seems to have been dropped by the guy organizing it. I would very much appreciate any thoughts.

ended up reposting this because I liked it so much. First time putting words to why I enjoy specific noise so it might not be super clear, but I really enjoy the contrast between squeaky layer that feels like a chair being moved around and the clean melodic background layer. honestly the squeaks feel like a songbird for lack of a better word funny enough. Maybe I'm just an impatient listener but I would've had the intensity of the bit around 5:42 to be reached sooner and sustained for a bit longer too. overall this was super cool

Thank you! Glad to hear that some of the interactions with my stuff was real people and not just Soundcloud bots. It was definitely an experiment---made out of two excess tracks that I have had in my archive for some time (the background was a guitar, the squeaks were from a contac mic, some metal, and a distortion pedal). But timing will be the next thing to work on!

[HHP]

Was hoping I could get some thoughts from any of y'all on my double EP that just dropped yesterday:

I'm not sure what side of noise most of my stuff falls under (and I'd love to get thoughts on that too), but it's free-improv guitar-based noise with shades of ambient noise wall, harsh noise, psychedelic rock, drone metal, doom metal, and more. My general process is to record and save stuff to use as layers on each other, or to cut up the best parts of improv sessions and fold it over itself like origami until I feel it's an interesting and fun listen.

[The Mysterious Creep]

Was hoping I could get some thoughts from any of y'all on my double EP that just dropped yesterday:

I'm not sure what side of noise most of my stuff falls under (and I'd love to get thoughts on that too), but it's free-improv guitar-based noise with shades of ambient noise wall, harsh noise, psychedelic rock, drone metal, doom metal, and more. My general process is to record and save stuff to use as layers on each other, or to cut up the best parts of improv sessions and fold it over itself like origami until I feel it's an interesting and fun listen.

Gives me strong hints of latter-day Skullflower (as well as some of my own guitar-driven works). I'm curious how it was all recorded - the distorted bits tend to have an additional layer of clipping that says digital to me, but then I also hear signs that it was recorded to tape.

I think the collage route is interesting, though it seems like it's underutilized. A lot of this sounds like it could one guitar and some delay, I wanna hear more of a big, overwhelming cloud of sound - put some more overdubbing into it, maybe even search for additional sound sources beyond just guitar.

I've recorded a lot of stuff that sounds like the sorta solo-ing on "Souther" and to a lesser extent on "Shu," and I would recommend editing that out or at least processing it into more of a smear. That's the sort of thing that sounds alright in an improv session when you're looking for a place to go, but on record it usually just sounds like sloppy novice guitar playing (like I said, this plagues my own material as well). The dronier, fuzzier material is the really strong stuff.

[HHP]

Was hoping I could get some thoughts from any of y'all on my double EP that just dropped yesterday:

I'm not sure what side of noise most of my stuff falls under (and I'd love to get thoughts on that too), but it's free-improv guitar-based noise with shades of ambient noise wall, harsh noise, psychedelic rock, drone metal, doom metal, and more. My general process is to record and save stuff to use as layers on each other, or to cut up the best parts of improv sessions and fold it over itself like origami until I feel it's an interesting and fun listen.

Gives me strong hints of latter-day Skullflower (as well as some of my own guitar-driven works). I'm curious how it was all recorded - the distorted bits tend to have an additional layer of clipping that says digital to me, but then I also hear signs that it was recorded to tape.

I think the collage route is interesting, though it seems like it's underutilized. A lot of this sounds like it could one guitar and some delay, I wanna hear more of a big, overwhelming cloud of sound - put some more overdubbing into it, maybe even search for additional sound sources beyond just guitar.

I've recorded a lot of stuff that sounds like the sorta solo-ing on "Souther" and to a lesser extent on "Shu," and I would recommend editing that out or at least processing it into more of a smear. That's the sort of thing that sounds alright in an improv session when you're looking for a place to go, but on record it usually just sounds like sloppy novice guitar playing (like I said, this plagues my own material as well). The dronier, fuzzier material is the really strong stuff.

Since I don't have a lot of recording equipment, I've always recorded using guitar rig 5 and a Rocksmith USB cable. Initially I was using the digital pedal effects on there but switched over to physical pedals or even a mix of the two on some releases. If you hear anything that sounds like tape, it might be because of the analog delay I'm using now (way huge supa puss), and digital distortion may be the amp sim. I'm also using two different fuzz pedals for my sound so that could be contributing to the specific clipping you mentioned. With my new band Juicebox, we've been recording live in a friend's basement using actual amps (I use a Peavey 212 transtube efx) and having a full band definitely gives the noodling more grounding.

I definitely agree on the dronier, fuzzier stuff being the more polished and interesting bit myself. Probably the most focused track I've ever recorded as a solo artist.

Btw, are you on rym as well? I think I messaged you a few times about your stuff inspiring me on there.

EDIT: Also funny you mention Skullflower as that's the one really big noise guitarist dude I'm aware of that I haven't checked out yet. My main points of inspo would probably be keiji haino, aaron turner, wata (the clipping effect on side one is actually from the hizumitas pedal being cranked wayyyy too hard since that recording was my first time ever using it), dylan baldi (the noisier side of cloud nothings in general), caspar brotzmann, justin beck, both nick Antonopoulos and sean leary, and lately neil young.

[The Mysterious Creep]

I definitely agree on the dronier, fuzzier stuff being the more polished and interesting bit myself. Probably the most focused track I've ever recorded as a solo artist.

Btw, are you on rym as well? I think I messaged you a few times about your stuff inspiring me on there.

EDIT: Also funny you mention Skullflower as that's the one really big noise guitarist dude I'm aware of that I haven't checked out yet. My main points of inspo would probably be keiji haino, aaron turner, wata (the clipping effect on side one is actually from the hizumitas pedal being cranked wayyyy too hard since that recording was my first time ever using it), dylan baldi (the noisier side of cloud nothings in general), caspar brotzmann, justin beck, both nick Antonopoulos and sean leary, and lately neil young.

I am indeed on RYM, we probably have chatted there before (I recall you recommended Juicebox to me on my favorite guitar feedback list). Haino and Brotzmann are definitely big ones for me, and I've really liked what I've heard of Turner's solo guitar work.

[Namahs]

Been having a massive creative block lately.
Got a intense burn to do something but all of the ideas end up trashed.

[Bubble-Congeries]

Been having a massive creative block lately.
Got a intense burn to do something but all of the ideas end up trashed.

Well, if it makes you feel any better:
GOOBLE GOBBLE ONE OF US!

[SS1535]

Been having a massive creative block lately.
Got a intense burn to do something but all of the ideas end up trashed.

Just make sure to store the contents of the trash can for cannibalism later!

[papp diin]

Been going to an actual rehearsal space lately. It's been a big learning experience that the shit that sounds good in headphones at home doesn't necessarily translate well through a PA. In a good way of course. I've no choice but to step outside of the box I felt somewhat confined in at home.

[SS1535]

Been going to an actual rehearsal space lately. It's been a big learning experience that the shit that sounds good in headphones at home doesn't necessarily translate well through a PA. In a good way of course. I've no choice but to step outside of the box I felt somewhat confined in at home.

They also give you the chance to really play LOUD. I'll be spending some hours in a rehearsal studio too in just a few weeks...

[papp diin]

Been going to an actual rehearsal space lately. It's been a big learning experience that the shit that sounds good in headphones at home doesn't necessarily translate well through a PA. In a good way of course. I've no choice but to step outside of the box I felt somewhat confined in at home.

They also give you the chance to really play LOUD. I'll be spending some hours in a rehearsal studio too in just a few weeks...

That's a given! And a new experience for me.

[SS1535]

Been going to an actual rehearsal space lately. It's been a big learning experience that the shit that sounds good in headphones at home doesn't necessarily translate well through a PA. In a good way of course. I've no choice but to step outside of the box I felt somewhat confined in at home.

They also give you the chance to really play LOUD. I'll be spending some hours in a rehearsal studio too in just a few weeks...

That's a given! And a new experience for me.

Make sure to record whatever you do there too. It generally blows away even the best line-in recordings.

[leuksi]

They also give you the chance to really play LOUD. I'll be spending some hours in a rehearsal studio too in just a few weeks...

That's a given! And a new experience for me.

Make sure to record whatever you do there too. It generally blows away even the best line-in recordings.

Recording everything is the way to go. I learnt the difference between playing loud through a PA and through headphones the hard way, didn't have time to properly rehearse for my first show and boy did that go like shit...

[SS1535]

That's a given! And a new experience for me.

Make sure to record whatever you do there too. It generally blows away even the best line-in recordings.

Recording everything is the way to go. I learnt the difference between playing loud through a PA and through headphones the hard way, didn't have time to properly rehearse for my first show and boy did that go like shit...

Any hard-learned tips to pass on? Incidentally, I'll be performing for the fist time on the 20th (with a partner, thankfully), and we will have two 3-hour rehearsal sessions at a studio in the days prior.

[leuksi]

Make sure to record whatever you do there too. It generally blows away even the best line-in recordings.

Recording everything is the way to go. I learnt the difference between playing loud through a PA and through headphones the hard way, didn't have time to properly rehearse for my first show and boy did that go like shit...

Any hard-learned tips to pass on? Incidentally, I'll be performing for the fist time on the 20th (with a partner, thankfully), and we will have two 3-hour rehearsal sessions at a studio in the days prior.

The first that comes to mind is if you're using vocal mics that are supposed to feedback, they will behave very differently depending on how to PA is set and how loud it is, prepare for that. Contact mics kinda do the same. Secondly, always bring as much extra gear with you, ESPECIALLY cables. DC cables, patch cabels, instrument cables, fucking RJ45's, what ever you use. Everything that can break will break during the soundcheck or the show; never during rehearsals. Also make sure your cassette/tape machines have been serviced somewhat recently if you use such things, just cleaning the pinch rollers and tape heads is often enough to prevent shitty things from happening.

[SS1535]

Recording everything is the way to go. I learnt the difference between playing loud through a PA and through headphones the hard way, didn't have time to properly rehearse for my first show and boy did that go like shit...

Any hard-learned tips to pass on? Incidentally, I'll be performing for the fist time on the 20th (with a partner, thankfully), and we will have two 3-hour rehearsal sessions at a studio in the days prior.

The first that comes to mind is if you're using vocal mics that are supposed to feedback, they will behave very differently depending on how to PA is set and how loud it is, prepare for that. Contact mics kinda do the same. Secondly, always bring as much extra gear with you, ESPECIALLY cables. DC cables, patch cabels, instrument cables, fucking RJ45's, what ever you use. Everything that can break will break during the soundcheck or the show; never during rehearsals. Also make sure your cassette/tape machines have been serviced somewhat recently if you use such things, just cleaning the pinch rollers and tape heads is often enough to prevent shitty things from happening.

Many thanks! I will be using a larger piece of metal than I am used to, so I will have to be careful to moderate where it ends up in relation to the speakers. Thankfully no actual tape machines will be used, as I could easily see loops playing havoc with the whole situation.

[durtal]

been experimenting with gear and sounds for a month or two now; this is my first time sharing something:



feedback = very welcome!

[papp diin]

I like it - It's definitely better than most "one month in"-shots at noise, including my own. Definitely has potential as a stepping stone to something.
I'm feeling a more "composed" approach rather than freeform, is that what you were going for?